On a beautiful sunny Friday, hundreds of attorneys, legal tech folks, law students, legal bloggers, and others interested in innovation in law gathered at the Computer History Museum in Mountain View California to learn about innovation in law.

 

#ReInventLaw 2013 Silicon Valley Conference

A Movement to ReInvent Law

While Innov8Social has been a platform to explore social innovation and startup social entrepreneurs, I was surprised to begin to learn about the emerging innovations in law and legal tech. Speakers focused on design and process-oriented practice of law and focused on taking a long, tough look at whether the legal industry today best meets the needs of clients and the legal profession.

Silicon Valley Conference, March 8th 2013: Rapid-Fire

#ReInventLaw 2013 Silicon Valley ConferenceIn rapid-fire style, the conference featured over 40 speakers–many of whom presented in 6-8 minutes. The quick progression of speakers made the presentations more of a “pitch” than an in-depth view and allowed for many ideas to be presented in a short time. With numerous scheduled networking time, the organizers wanted to encourage discussion and debriefing with other attendees.

MSU Law Leads the Movement for Innovation in Law

Michigan State University College of Law (@MSULaw) has taken a leadership role in cultivating and growing this area of legal innovation. Organizers of the conference, Daniel Martin Katz and Renee Knake are faculty members at MSULaw and Co-Directors of ReInvent Law Laboratory that is actively pursuing building a platform to share and exchange ideas and innovation on how evolve the legal industry.

With funding from the Kauffman Foundation and MSULaw, the ReInventLaw Laboratory is focusing on building tools to address the R&D gap felt by law firms, legal departments, and other legal fields. Additionally, ReInventLaw Lab hosts Fellows to further the work and research in innovation in law. The core tenets of ReInvent Law Laboratory are: law + tech + design + delivery.

Twitter Recap of #ReInventLaw Silicon Valley 2013,  @Storify

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Twitter Recap of #ReInventLaw Silicon Valley 2013

The ReInvent Law Silicon Valley 2013 conference on 3/8/13 explored law, tech, innovation, and entrepreneurship in the legal profession—and paid special attention to disruptive technologies, future trends, and identifying needs of clients. Here’s a recap of Twitter highlights!

Storified by Neetal Parekh· Sat, Mar 09 2013 12:34:27

Images from #ReInventLaw Silicon Valley 2013 by @margarethagan

#ReInventLaw a VC’s thoughts on the legal tech space, my #sketchnote http://pic.twitter.com/EQNsygiMXaMargaret Hagan
What is wrong with Law School? http://www.razblint.com/2013/03/law-students-on-law-school/ a Top 11 List from law students #reinventlaw http://pic.twitter.com/V2l7UxSOtVMargaret Hagan
Legal forms alone are not enough! #ReInventLaw Clients need wholly designed legal experience. http://pic.twitter.com/mCJV9WE8MHMargaret Hagan
Visualize the Law! #ReInventLaw let’s build legal maps… http://pic.twitter.com/hlnjsyYUlbMargaret Hagan
#ReinventLaw Where will good Legal Innovation come from? Good design process — some ground rules for brainstorms: http://pic.twitter.com/CMQlZeu3XwMargaret Hagan
#ReInventLaw To really design access to justice, we need to look beyond just making law publicly available. http://pic.twitter.com/gSzFAbOkSNMargaret Hagan

Set 1 #ReInventLaw Silicon Valley Speakers: 8 Talks, 6 Min

Henry Jones, Managing Director @Axiom_Law
RT @lbridgesmith: #ReInventLaw Henry Jones notes that the GC’s at the top 200 companies control 80% of legal work. Meeting their needs…Axiom
Henry Jones from @Axiom_Law kicks off #reinventlaw Silicon Valley 2013! http://pic.twitter.com/tETCoKNFVuComp Legal Studies
VC looks at @Axiom_Law but as investor, does not see exit strategy given non-lawyers can’t own #ReInventLaw [RF: but Axiom not a law firm[ronfriedmann
Stephanie Kimbro, Attorney @BurtonLaw
Assumptions about lawyer advertising need to be rethought; impeding access to justice @StephKimbro #ReinventLaw #LegalRebelsRachel M. Zahorsky
@StephKimbro asks: why so many under employed lawyers AND such a gaping need for legal services? #ReInventLaw – Good Question.Ed Walters
Silvia Hodges, Director of Research Services @CTTyMetrix
#reinventlaw Silvia Hodges – lawyers need to focus on efficiency and numbers – use UTBMS codespracticePRO
Ray Bayley, CEO @ Novus Law
Just did the 6 minute fast talk at #reinventlaw. Listening to CEO of Novus Law. Story telling increases learning.StephKimbro
“@ronfriedmann: #ReInventLaw Ray Bayley. Novus uses gamification to motivate workers” || Best thought legal business I’ve seen.Patrick Lamb
#reinventlaw Ray Bayley – groups always outperform individuals – get people working togetherDanPinnington
Ben Gubernick, Founder @ Resolvable
#reinventlaw Ben Gubernick: courts are like 10,000 independent burger joints – we need a McDonalds model for the courtsDanPinnington
Yes! Ben Gubernick: adoption, not technology, is our challenge to change the legal system. #reinventlawWeorce
Joe Kelly, Law Student @MSULaw
#reinventlaw Joe Kelly from MSU Law: we need to make law more visual – think Google Maps and touch http://milaws.orgDanPinnington
Totally! “@agoldner: Why is law text only? Why not at least as pictures? Joe Kelly wins most interesting idea thus far at #reinventlaw”Jeena Cho
Show what the law says: present the law in more consumer friendly formats. UX/UI > text-make law more accessible. Joe Kelly #reinventlawFair Document
#reinventlaw Joe Kelly, real people need real time legal solutions they can understand and accessLarry Bridgesmith
Nicole Auerbach, Founding Member @ Valorem Law Group
#ReInventLaw Nicole from Valorem Law – 50% women coming into law for last 20 years but only 15% equity partners in top 200 firms! ShockingRiverview Law US
Nicole Auerbach of Valorem talking about why billable hour is detrimental to women lawyers.-That’s why I unbundle w/fixed fees. #ReInventLawStephKimbro
“The billable hour disparately impacts women.” @ValoremNic on why women should bash the clock @ReInventLaw @MSULaw http://pic.twitter.com/8pUIIbz7YDRenee Knake
Colin Rule, CEO @Modria
Colin Rule takes the stage at #Reinventlaw to discuss Online Dispute Resolution. #ModriaLoic COUTELIER
#reinventlaw colin rule – 90% of 60 million disputes resolved by eBay through online dispute resolutionDavid Bohrer
Colin Rule – the EU will make ODR mandatory for all eCommerce vendors by 2015! #Modria #reinventlawLoic COUTELIER

Set 2 #ReInventLaw Silicon Valley Speakers

Ed Walters, CEO @FastCase
#ReInventLaw Ed Walters from Fastcase on who owns the law?Aric Press
#reinventlaw Ed Walters from Fastcase: Should big corporate publishers own the law? Audience answer: “Hell no!”DanPinnington
Law is a damn cool data set – Ed Walters of FastCase #ReInventLawR. Amani
Ed Walters: Law must be both free AND open; law is our code of ethics #reinventlawDonna Seyle
Sol Irvine, Partner @YusonIrvine
How to #ReInventLaw you asked? Data-driven contracts talk by Sol Irvine. Great stuff!Daniel W. Linna Jr.
#reinventlaw Sol Irvine – amazing value-add for lawyers – tell your clients about the data in their contractspracticePRO
#reinventlaw Sol Irvine has totally convinced me most contracts can be written as a dozen data points in ExcelDanPinnington
Daniel Martin Katz, Co-Founder @ReInventLaw Lab, Asst. Professor MSU Law
A pretty packed house tuning into co-founder of #ReinventLaw Lab, Daniel Martin Katz talking about the future of law http://pic.twitter.com/Km4XLCGHw5Neetal Parekh
#reinventlaw daniel katz-KEY “you can’t sell something to someone who does not want to buy it” Just cuz we build it . . .David Bohrer

Set 3 #ReInventLaw Silicon Valley Speakers

Jason Mendelson, Managing Director @FoundryGroup
VC investor Jason Mendelson of The Foundry Group is interested in the legal space & would love to disrupt the AmLaw 10! #ReInventLawReid Trautz
Jason Mendelson: big data is nothing without insight #reinventlawDonna Seyle
Insightful talk by Jeff Mendelson of @foundrygroup—legal education is ripe for transformation #ReinventLawNeetal Parekh
Focus on consumer & work efficiency- impact driver of innovation-the consumersJason Mendelson @foundrygroup#reinventlaw @FairDocumentsJustin Yarmark
Sell margins not hours. Lawyers need to think strategically about creating profit and margins not # of hours. #reinventlaw @foundrygroupJustin Yarmark
Jason Mendelson “Great lawyers will buy things to make them more efficient” – very true. #ReinventLawThe Law School App
Josh Becker, CEO @LexMachina
Thanks Andrew! “@agoldner: Josh Becker rocking #reinventlaw. @lexmachina delivers empirical value and saves companies money.”Josh Becker
#ReInventLaw josh Becker describing money ball techniques to predict judge or lawyer behavior.Aric Press
Raj Abhyankaer, CEO @Legal Force (@LawInspiring)
Raj Abhyanker talks how a dissatisfied associate became an entrepreneur taking on the legal industry #Trademarkia #LegalForce #ReinventLawRachel M. Zahorsky
RT @aricpress: #ReInventLaw Raj on trademarkia: 24k clients world’s largest trademark firm @legalforce @trademarkiaNeetal Parekh
Raj Abhyanker from @legalforce: Invest in retail access to law, not lobbies. #ReInventLaw Beautiful slide deck! http://pic.twitter.com/rizv70Dvr3Ed Walters
#ReinventLaw – Video, talk by #LegalForce CEO Raj Abhyanker, Silicon Valley, March 8 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxiSlG2Lcmw&sns=tw via @youtubeLegalForce
Dane Stangler, Director of Research & Policy @KauffmanFdn
Dane Stangler, Kaufman Fdn: looks at how reinvention of law can affect other areas of economy, release entrepreneurial energy #reinventlawDonna Seyle
Dane Stangler of Kauffman Foundation: “How can legal sector help other sectors open themselves up to innovation?” #reinventlawGideon Grunfeld
#ReinventLaw Law can be a tool to encourage entrepreneurship. Almost an unbelievable truth from Dane Stangler, Kaufmann Foundation.Tweet The Debates

Set 4 #ReInventLaw Silicon Valley Speakers

Tim Stanley, CEO @Justia
Hearing the history of free law online from @Justia Founder/CEO Tim Stanley…not as much change as you would expect in 18 yrs #ReInventLawNeetal Parekh
Tim Stanley (@justia): We can’t rely on Google for everything…or maybe we can #ReInventLawDavid Kemp
Tim (@Justia) Stanley talking about origins of the #openlaw movement. He’s led effort for many years. #ReinventLaw http://pic.twitter.com/PaP0c31PWGEd Walters
Michael Bommarito, Co-Founder @ Quantitative Legal Solutions
#ReInventLaw @mjbommar up now. Law’s Future from Finance’s Pastronfriedmann
Value + risk management is what clients want, not hours. #ReInventLaw @mjbommarronfriedmann
.@mjbommar has posted slides of his #ReInventLaw presentation, “Law’s Future from Finance’s Past”: http://bommaritollc.com/2013/03/08/slides-from-reinvent-law-silicon-valley-talk/Robert Richards
John Murdock III, Partner @ Bradley Arant Boult Cummings LLP (@BABC_Law)
#reinventlaw John Murdock brings process management to knowledge management in legal production like no one else! Well done John.Larry Bridgesmith
John Murdock illustrates what efficiency sounds like. #ReInventLaw http://pic.twitter.com/lUAeFAPn7MEd Walters
Mark Sherman, Asst. Director Education Division @ Federal Judicial Center
#ReInventLaw mark Sherman from fed judiciary on big strides by fed judges into 21st c. Includes iPads, apps, YouTube. Judges! Who knew?Aric Press
Federal judiciary follows gamification, leverages YouTube and nearly 60% employ iPads. #reinventlaw Mark Sherman federal judiciary centerJustin Yarmark
#reinventlaw Bend, flip, collaborate learn with content, interactivity and repeat. These words are the future of leaning. Mark ShermanLarry Bridgesmith
Renee Knake, @ReInventLaw Lab, Assoc. Professor @ MSU Law
Why are we here at #ReInventLaw? It’s gotta be the (law)ntrepreneurship, explains Renee Knake of @ReInventLaw Lab @msulawNeetal Parekh
Lawentreprenuership -making legal industry affordable, accessible and focused on the users experience in law. #reinventlaw Renee KnakeJustin Yarmark
My slides from @ReInventLaw Silicon Valley on (Law)ntrepreneurship – why are you here? http://www.slideshare.net/mobile/reneeknake/knake-talk-on-lawntrepreneurship-re-invent-law-silicon-valley-march-2013Renee Knake

Set 5 #ReInventLaw Silicon Valley Speakers

Karnig Kerkonian & Rudy Minasian, Principals @ Velawsity (@VelawsityApp)
#ReInventLaw starting after lunch beak with Karning Kerkonian and Rudy Minasian @Velawsityronfriedmann
http://Velawsity.com launching now at #reinventlaw. LPM in the cloud.Elmer Masters
#reinventlaw Velawsity Integration of knowledge data communication and collaboration: best practices made perfect and data made real time.Larry Bridgesmith
Amani Smathers, Law Student @MSULaw
The martini glass of legal services. @R_Amani @ReInventLaw @MSULaw http://pic.twitter.com/whQvBiHUBqRenee Knake
Does what we call ourselves matter? Lawyers need to rebrand ourselves. @R_Amani rocks the stage @ReInventLaw @MSULawRenee Knake
Kevin Colangelo, Managing Partner @YousonIrvine
Show clients the guts of your process – Kevin Colangelo #ReinventLaw that’s a great way to set client expectationsSachin Bhatia
Law factory? Sounds ominous. RT @aricpress: #ReInventLaw Kevin colangelo on building the law factory.Gwynne Monahan
Dan Lewis, CEO @RavelLaw
Very cool data viz tools – looking forward to seeing more from @ravellaw! #ReInventLawEd Walters
Blown away by the dataviz demos for legal info. @RavelLaw is awesome. #reinventlawmarcidale
Dan Lewis launching @ravellaw at #ReInventLaw. http://pic.twitter.com/2YfjXjolTxEd Walters
Sam Rysdyk, Fellow @ReInventLaw Lab
Sam Rysdyk a #ReInventLaw fellow on object oriented lawyering. Every law student should know some programming. Law as code. Rock on.Elmer Masters
#ReinventLaw Fellow Sam Rysdyk says successful law students will have programming skills. How many liberal arts grads will listen?Rachel M. Zahorsky
Because coders now get the ladies (or gents)! @reneeknake @rysdyk @reinventlaw @msulaw #CodingistheNewCoolLast Honest Lawyer

Set 6 #ReInventLaw Silicon Valley Speakers

Charley Moore, Founder @RocketLawyer
RT @LawScribbler: @RocketLawyer Charley Moore: nearly ½ small biz operate w/o legal help, now, collaborating w/lawyers online #ReinventLawAlli Gerkman
After hearing from Charley Moore at #ReInventLaw I have to get a copy of the new @RocketLawyer consumer survey before #ABATECHSHOW in April.Reid Trautz
81% of small business owners expect 2013 to be better than 2012 #RocketLawyer #ReInventLawAJ

Hon. Ann Aiken, Chief Judge @ Federal District Court of Oregon

Hon. Ann Aiken – evidence based practice for reentry – #reinventlaw Silicon Valley 2013 http://pic.twitter.com/wmqFVzLyWUComp Legal Studies
Amazing presentation on reentry into society from the criminal justice system by Judge Ann Aiken (fed dist OR) at #ReInventLawR. Amani
Wow. Judge Ann Aiken (Fed-OR) has an ask (& a spec!) — an app to prevent recidivism. Hello, Silicon Valley! #reinventlaw #gov20marcidale
Judge Aiken: we’re losing geniuses to broken criminal justice system. #ReInventLaw #RememberAaronTweet The Debates
Judge Aiken talking about 3553(a) factors #ReInventLaw #SentencingGuidelinesJosh Blackman
David Estrada, Legal Director +GoogleXLabs
David Estrada @googleXlabs makes the pitch to roomful of lawyers to support #selfdriving cars. Is Skynet around the corner #reinventlawJustin Yarmark
David Estrada – google x labs – discussing the inapplicability of existing laws to self-driving cars – more than I imagined! #reinventlawDonna Seyle
David Estrada, Legal Director of Google X. Time for Skynet automotive … err, self-driving cars. #ReInventLaw http://pic.twitter.com/nB47CgFP3wEd Walters
David Estrada – who is responsible if two self-driving cars crash in the woods #reinventlawDanPinnington
Kinglsey Martin, Owner @KMStandards
Kingsley – computer capacity will exceed lawyer capacity soon #reinventlawDanPinnington
@Kingsley_Martin building tools for quantitative legal prediction. #ReinventLaw http://pic.twitter.com/dAcU5xEPWfEd Walters
Kingsley Martin – machines will draft and review contracts #reinventlawpracticePRO
New post: Reverse Engineering Legal Logic (Live from #ReInventLaw) http://bit.ly/X4WE0F @Kingsley_Martin #KMronfriedmann
Ajaz Ahmed, Founder @Legal365.com
Ajaz Ahmed, founder of http://Legal365.com, based in the UK says “The legal market is too big for entrepreneurs to avoid.” #ReInventLawReid Trautz
@ajaz_ahmed: Great innovators do the obvious before it’s obvious to everyone else. #ReInventLaw #truth http://pic.twitter.com/0vChFDZmEREd Walters
@ajaz_ahmed @LEGAL365 We will see outsiders (like, Apple and Amazon) in the legal services space. #ReinventLawRachel M. Zahorsky

Set 7 #ReInventLaw Silicon Valley Speakers

Chas Rampenthal, General Counsel @LegalZoom
Chas Rampentahl, GC of @LegalZoom up at #ReInventLaw on Retail Lessons for the Legal Industry. Cites Quality Solicitors in UK as exampleronfriedmann
“If you can’t afford a solution it’s not a solution.” Chas Rampenthal @LegalZoom @ReInventLaw @MSULaw http://pic.twitter.com/uXI8X2jdsWRenee Knake
Great talk by Chas, @LegalZoom, our fellow traveler in retail legal innovation. Hope to visit Legalzoom in a @Target one day. #ReInventLawLegalForce
TargetLaw=solution? @ronfriedmann: Intrstng focus on those 2 poor to pay rack rates but don’t qualify for free aid #ReInventLaw @LegalZoomRachel M. Zahorsky
Sorry to say, but I haven’t met a person yet whose used @LegalZoom and had the “right” experience. #reinventlaw So be careful tagging TargetJason Wilson
Bill Henderson, Professor @ IU Bloomington Law (@IUMaurerLaw)
#ReinventLaw the great and good bill Henderson on new approach to lawyer development.Aric Press
Bill Henderson talking about original Cravath development system: raw talent, salary, training, teamword, up or out #reinventlawDanPinnington
Love the pedagogical shift suggestion by Bill. Love the suggestions for legal ed. Love love love.We’re on the right track at UT #ReInventLawAaron Dewald
Bill Henderson’s clockworks #ReinventLaw http://pic.twitter.com/yWmHvzsNYaDanPinnington
#reinventlaw Bill Henderson, project management, systems engineering, knowledge management and system design: key legal education componentsLarry Bridgesmith
#reinventlaw Bill Henderson says that the leverage model of today’s law firms serves the partners very well. Not so much clients and assocLarry Bridgesmith
Deven Desai, Professor @ Thomas Jefferson Law School (@TJSL)
Love it. RT @DanPinnington: Deven Desai – Should law firms have a T-rex in the lobby? (a reminder to evolve or disappear) #reinventlawR. Amani
Deven Desai – “lawyer of the future should be preventative” (that means understanding the client’s business) #reinventlawDanPinnington
Lawyers shouldn’t help people do whatever they want, they should help people do whatever they want that’s legal. Deven Desai #ReInventLawTweet The Debates
Andy Daws, VP for North America @RiverviewLaw
#reinventlaw Andy Daws with Legal Services Act and ABS initiatives, UK has become the world’s legal laboratoryLarry Bridgesmith
Andy Daws of @RiverviewLaw captures a key trend in law firms adopting new technology. #ReinventLaw http://pic.twitter.com/vJYU4GueTcEd Walters
Andy Daws: Q: How many lawyers does it take to change a light bulb?A: Hourly, or flat fee? #ReinventLawEd Walters
#reinventlaw With retail legal services, consumers can buy tea and legal services with loyalty points: Andy DawsLarry Bridgesmith

Richard Granat, CEO @DirectLawUSA

@rgranat up at #ReInventLaw. Richard has been working for decades to deliver affordable legal services to middle class.ronfriedmann
#ReInventLaw Richard Granat says US shouldn’t let UK be only legal lab in world. If lawyers can’t solve access to justice, let non-lawyers!Riverview Law US
Richard Granat – 75 million clients in $45 Billion latent legal market (and Big Law doesn’t serve them) #reinventlawDanPinnington
#reinventlaw Clients want transparency, price certainty and convenience. Richard GranatLarry Bridgesmith
Richard Granat (@rgranat) of @DirectLawUSA on private investment in legal services. #ReinventLaw http://pic.twitter.com/IYvp59p5uMEd Walters

Set 8 #ReInventLaw Silicon Valley Speakers

Ron Dolin, Lecturer @ Stanford Law, Research Fellow @CodexStanford
@calbarlpmt ‘s own Ron Dolin presents on “Thinking Outside the Bar”. #ReInventLawPerry Segal – Charon
#ReInventLaw Stanford’s Ron Dolin asks what law really means. We need an attitude that thinks beyond current legal system and beyond the BarRiverview Law US
#reinventlaw Ron Dolin: let software do what it can do best (process) so lawyers can do what they do best.Larry Bridgesmith
Use legal technology to amplify human judgment rather than replacing it with inadequate short cuts. (Ron Dolin, Stanford) #reinventlawAlli Gerkman

Josh Blackman, Founder @HarlanInstitute, Asst. Prof. @ South Texas College of Law

Amazing @joshmblackman talk on potential of #bigdata in legal system. Nod to @aaronsw re: closed #PACER data. #reinventlawmarcidale
@JoshMBlackman: How we get from learning by precedent to learning by data, then to predicting w/data. #ReinventLaw http://pic.twitter.com/vZdBzFDxGnEd Walters
@JoshMBlackman is looking to liberate all the good data locked in PACER, to use it to change law, make predictions. http://www.fantasyscotus.net/Elmer Masters
@JoshMBlackman has crowdsourced outcomes of court cases w better results than most experts. #ReInventLawronfriedmann
@JoshMBlackman re: eventual effects of tech on law – we’re prob not far off from tools that aid justice, but what about equity? #reinventlawDavid Marble
At #ReinventLaw speakers read notes from smartphones, not index cards. #MineWasImpromptuJosh Blackman
Michael Poulshock, Founder @ Hammura.bi
Michael @Poulshock talks about the Hammurabi Project, to make law computable, like TuboTax for law. #ReInventLaw http://pic.twitter.com/y4kNp6WkmGEd Walters
@poulshock: why not publish the law in source code, a chunk of open logic? #ReinventLaw #codeislaw #lawiscode Big idea.Ed Walters
Marci Harris, CEO @PopVox
@marcidale of @popvox: How public participation changes lawmaking. #ReinventLaw http://pic.twitter.com/48sVet2C7FEd Walters
#reinventlaw Marci Harris, traditionally public policy making consisted of moving money or moving people. Now Congress is over capacityLarry Bridgesmith
Lobbying meets social media w/ @Marcidale and #PopVox #ReInventLawAJ

Andy Ninh (@_ninhja), Law Student @ MSU Law

#ReInventLaw Andy Ninh from MSU suggests augmented reality will transform future legal services. Must get a pair of those Google glasses!Riverview Law US
@A_Ninhja shares his recent visit to google and future of augmented reality within legal system #reinventlaw http://pic.twitter.com/q1AQoDC29WSam Hensley
Tony Lai, Co-Founder @LawGives
@TonyKLai of @LawGives discusses why lawyers – humans – so important for legal services, even (especially?) today? http://pic.twitter.com/ahI6CTAuUsEd Walters

Seth McGrath, CTO @PropylonUS

Missed #ReInventLaw Silicon Valley conference on legal tech & services innovation? See tweets & resources here: http://legalinformatics.wordpress.com/2013/03/07/8-march-reinventlaw-silicon-valley-2013-conference/Robert Richards
Sean McGrath of Propylon is final #reinventlaw presenter; talking paperless using TimeArc software–product for legislative drafting.Reid Trautz

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