A1 | Christina Oatfield, Policy Director at Sustainable Economies Law Center & Pursuing Independent Study to Become a Lawyer in California: I heard about it while I was at a retreat with attorneys who work with the Sustainable Economies Law Center (SELC). I had been volunteering for SELC for several months hoping it would help me decide whether I wanted to make the big commitment of going to law school or not. Janelle Orsi, a co-founder of SELC, mentioned that she knew an attorney who got her license in California without going to law school, but Janelle didn’t know much about the process.I was immediately intrigued because speaking with the various attorneys at this retreat had confirmed by suspicions that I had been developing during my internship with SELC; that practicing law to support cooperatives, mission-driven businesses, nonprofits and community groups working to create more socially just and sustainable economies was what I wanted to do, but that law schools are overpriced and generally not set up to prepare students for that kind of work.Janelle and I immediately found the information about the California Bar’s Law Office Study Program online and I began to read about all the rules and contact other attorneys who were familiar with the program to help me decide whether it was right for me. The more I learned about it the more strongly I felt that it was the right path for me. So then I approached Jenny Kassan, SELC’s other co-founder, who practices law through her firm Katovich & Kassan Law Group in Oakland, and asked her if she and her firm would host me as an apprentice so that I could fulfill the requirements of the Law Office Study program. She and her partner John Katovich quickly agreed to it!
Q2 | Innov8Social: What are the benefits you have experienced from pursuing a path to becoming an attorney through apprenticeship?
A2 | Christina: There are so many benefits!
-spending much of my time observing practicing attorneys doing exactly the kind of work that I want to do when I become an attorney
-in-depth learning about legal topics that are often not covered in law school courses (such as cooperatives, crowdfunding for small businesses and new types of legal entities)
-studying and taking exams at my own pace
-not paying for law school
-looking forward to finishing law school with lots of practical experience
Q3 | Innov8Social: What challenges—expected and unexpected—have you had?
A3 | Christina: Most of the challenges I’ve faced have been expected. It can be a challenge to hold myself accountable to myself when I’m not immersed in a competitive school environment. Also, while my apprenticeship supervisor and the other attorneys at her firm are some of the nation’s experts in securities law for small businesses and unique legal structures for social enterprise, they are not experts in most of the many legal topics that are part of the bar exam, so there’s a lot that I need to study on my own, with just a little support from other attorneys who have taken the bar.
Q4 | Innov8Social: Do you have any advice for someone considering applying to an apprenticeship program?
A4 | Christina: Yes, and in fact, I’m thinking of creating a whole website with resources after I’m a little bit further along in the process myself. Also, note: there’s not really an “application” process but more so it’s a “registration” process because anyone who meets the pre legal education requirements and submits all the information required can start the Law Office Study Program.
First, I would suggest to potential participants that you carefully consider whether you prefer learning in a traditional classroom environment or whether you learn better by doing. I would also recommend some self reflection on whether you are the type of person to take a lot of initiative. Attorneys who supervisor apprentices are generally full time attorneys and while they commit to spending 5 hours or more per week directly supervising you, that still leaves a lot of your learning process fairly unstructured. Students who are very self motivated are, I think, generally a better fit for the Law Office Student Program.
Second, think about what area of law you want to practice in after you become an attorney. After 5 or more years most attorneys have developed areas of expertise in certain legal matters and may have forgotten much of the material that is on the bar exam if it is not related to their area of practice (the supervising attorney must have been practicing for 5 or more years in order to supervise a student in the Law Office Study Program). Therefore, you’ll want to have a good idea of what areas of law you might want to practice in because the areas of expertise of the attorney you study under will probably become your areas of expertise and determine what your marketable skill set will be once you become an attorney. You can change who your supervising attorney is as often as every 6 months so within the 4 year program you could potentially study under as many as eight different attorneys, but that may not actually be feasible or necessarily something you would actually want to do for many reasons.
Third, if your goal in becoming an attorney is to make a high salary working for a large firm or to become a high level political appointee then the Law Office Study Program is probably not for you because it doesn’t come with the same prestige that a high ranking law school brings to you. If your goal is to learn about particular non-traditional legal topics, to learn by doing and to save money then it’s more likely that this is a good choice for you. I think the Law Office Study program is especially great for students interested in public interest legal work to consider because it’s tough to go into public interest work if you have one or two hundred thousand dollars in debt from law school since public interest lawyers tend to earn less than those working in the private sector.